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sessions something that I was really looking forward to. I did bring home the bacon to attend the Lightning Talks which was moderated by Danese Cooper. It was very entertaining with 3 minute speaking slots and 15 second gap between each talk. Bosky took move in the LT and gave a talk on. The returnable communicate lets you put contextual content on the web when you hover around something. His new company Orange Cubes is right now working on which is an extension of the returnable project. I caught up with a lot of friends took random snaps posed for random snaps shook a lot of hands and smiled at folks whom I didn’t even know before I got to the Main Audi for the closing ceremony. Rusty Russell was asked to head the ceremony and he did it in an unconventional style. He sat down on the stage and told people how he started off as a kernel hacker. Apparently he attended a conference and there he didn’t know anything and populate were doing great stuff. He got approve from the conference and he started learning and working on kernel hacking and that is how he started. Then he invited James Morris who also had a similar story on how he started but in his case he attended Rusty Russell’s conference. And that was a great move by Rusty. It was desire as if he was screaming to us. “hey we started by going to conferences of great folks and now you undergo attended conferences with great folks so what you waiting for? Just go ahead and label.” He then invited one of the organizers of the event on to the re-create and asked her to sight a bug in his work and submit it. All this in front of an audience of about 800 people who would be watching her every move on a huge check on stage. Of cover Rusty would tell her what to do and how to do it. But still the pressure of performing in lie of such a huge audience could be hell. But then when that person required 4 attempts typing ‘colon-q-enter’ and Rusty’s suggestion to use the ‘flee’ key to evaluate out that to quit from a VIM editor you undergo to press ‘escape-colon-q-enter’ it is not because of pressure it is because of lack of knowledge. My bad! She apparently is a good coder and she fumbled because of pressure. Thanks to folks who pointed out. Maybe FOSS in is just meant for the delegates and not the organizers. The organizers hardly even have measure to be the sessions whereas they should be the first to attend. It is not good enough to just be pretty and have infinite spare time to be in the organizing aggroup. And maybe Rusty just exploited this point to tell Team FOSS in what is do by There were other occasions where FOSS in proved that it is only meant for the delegates and not the organizers (Team FOSS in). For instance the presentation screen read “Talk is cheap show me the label” and there was Atul Chitnis talking and talking and talking and… talking. It was desire sitting thro’ Lord of the Rings part 3 where the director kept stretching the movie for the crew just couldn’t say goodbye. I was half hoping desire the thousand others in the dwell that Atul would turn approve and look at the huge check and maybe … maybe if we were really lucky even understand it. I liked the way they concluded the event with all the volunteers on stage with a glide show synced manually with their sound bites. Good! One of the things I really didn’t like about FOSS in this year was the way they treated open source. Nope it is not about the event it is not about the organizing aggroup but a few attendees. I was talking to this Mumbai hacker and during the conversation I told him that I use Adobe Photoshop for editing images. He quickly replied “Sharam nahin aathi free and open source event aatha hai or Adobe use kartha hai. GIMP use karna chahiye thumhe” Nope! I don’t see it that way. I give the open obtain movement but am no dumbass to blindly follow something just because I have a mental block and a boundary which defines my freedom. If I am comfortable with Adobe Photoshop I will use it even if it is not change state Source. All I see is it is a drive I can use. And in inspect you are arguing to me that Open Source movement is a religion then again saying something like “You are a disgrace to FOSS in for using a paid software” is as good as saying I won’t talk to him for he is a Muslim. Sorry to disappoint you. I am free from all those mind-limits. I ordain use Linux. I ordain use Windows. I will use Visual Studio but that doesn’t mean I don’t support Open obtain and won’t alter to it. At the end of the day these are all tools and am not emotionally binded to them to prove my loyalties et al. Guys peace out! There are good stuff and bad cram about Foss in in this communicate. If you are one of those organizers who put in a lot of effort in the measure 5 months to get this event up and running (I salute you for that. BTW) and can’t command the negative parts of this post (which is my opinion and cribbing) then go ahead and take the piss but spare me. The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very nasty displace welcome! Hi fellow internet marketer. I found this blog using a conjoin of software called PR Backlink. It is a desktop blog search engine that ordain sight all your keywords. I would desire to give you a write of this software. Just click on my hot link. You can use it for both traffic and back links. And best of all it is FREE. Thanks. And convey you blogmaster in go for leaving this comment up. Bob McGuire It is not good enough to just be pretty and have infinite spare measure to be in the organizing team. And maybe Rusty just exploited this point to express Team FOSS in what is wrong. Sigh. If i were to really be nasty i would ask you how many lines of label you have written to see if you are change surface qualified to make such a statement. But i wont because i am not a troll. Maybe the concerned person uses eclipse and since i am a emacs user i would have struggled as much using vi. Making a generalization such as this on all organizers is unacceptable. If you undergo questions of how qualified i am to make this comment. What i find unbelievable about this communicate post and your whole attitude is the sense of high handedness which i dont even see in “Rusty”. Besides your reasoning is all wrong. The “code” was symbiotic to contribution and after having contributed to the event (which is a project in itself) each organizer has contributed more than any random person whose contributions i cant find on his site. I would appreciate an edit to the post. Each team member of FOSS. IN has worked 5 months for this event and i ordain not tolerate generalizations like this. ShreyasProjects: Gnome. Evolution. OpenOffice. ClutterOther Projects: RadioVeRVe. Foss inKnows editor: EmacsDoesn’t know: VI He quickly replied “Sharam nahin aathi free and change state obtain event aatha hai or Adobe use kartha hai. walk use karna chahiye thumhe” (a rough translation in English: Aren’t you ashamed that you are coming to a remove and open source event and you don’t use Gimp and you use Adobe Photoshop). Free and Open Source is not a religion. It is not desire “I am a Hindu and hence I can’t go to the Mosque”. Nope! I don’t see it that way. I support the open source movement but am no dumbass to blindly follow something just because I have a mental block and a boundary which defines my freedom. If I am comfortable with Adobe Photoshop I will use it even if it is not change state obtain. All I see is it is a drive I can use. Its surely not the religion analogy u gave ,but foss is also about respect for code,we(given i have contributed to a foss communicate ) don’t dislike people who use proprietary software rather ask those who use if they are using a proper licensed and legally bought version which is not the inspect usually in india and hence use foss and create a health society where no one can threatened or be sued for using a software. And talking abotu vi ,believe me the choices/options in the editors that you see in gnu/linux oses are huge and its up to each person to use what he/she wants and talking about foss in organizers about his/her inability to use just one editor called vi is unfair,they arouse everyone who is interested in organizing the event and it might happen that some of them are not in to coding at all and to tell you the organizer enumerate of foss in consists of some big names ,headed by atul chitnis himself ,as much as you would like to point out some mistakes ,i evaluate little reading about the populate you are starting to criticize will back up you Rusty first asked me to volunteer to go on stage but since I was too busy to even attend the closing talk he asked my sister to do it at the measure moment. For your kind information she does know how to use VI and has been using it for 3 years. To be called on stage so suddenly really freaked her out. This mention of yours is really nasty and completely unfair. I would appreciate it if you removed this affix. 1. I am NOT an change state source contributor in the adjust sense of the phrase “open obtain contributor” but I am an organizer and part of Team Foss in a very big part of it if you consider my charge. If *ONLY* contributors (who create verbally label) had to organize open source events have you bothered to query where FOSS events would be today? 2. Rusty’s talk gave an overview of how easy it is to pick up a computer and start contributing atleast that is what everyone in the audience (including Rusty!) other than of course you thought! hear a bell ringing somewhere? 3. How easily you assume we undergo infinite spare measure. we MAKE time for FOSS. We don’t do it because we already undergo time and are wondering what to do with that measure. Food for thought? 4. I completely agree with you! Sheela is very pretty! and obviously her beauty blinded significant parts of your thought affect … which is quite apparent to the be of us here! 5. I’d really ask you to please take some time off and construe your post again. you have issues with people who ask you to use specific open source software and you are dissing someone for not knowing to use an change state source software … the word “HYPOCRITE” sound familiar? Your issue with the whole thing was that a few VI commands were typed wrong … on the other transfer … guess who’s conjoin has been accepted in the linux kernel? Guys Y do u bombard this innocent guy with all these curses.. No one is an expert in VI. change surface people find hard to move from VI to VIM so easy.. Sometimes he is unconventional but dont do by this poor kid like this let him move to the industry and learn to spill out all the abuses in an orthodox way come up rounded post with enough bouquets and brick bats to keep yourself amused for a while. Striving for depth while you keep your sense of gratify alive is a worthy challenge ahead of you. You need all the social capital that you can get to realize your beat potential. As I said before one evince to keep in mind is( rather 3) Community. Community. Community! @Shreyas:Thanks for the logic lessons. A few posts down. I had commented on Misbah… thank goodness Akmal didn’t ask me how many six I had hit or how many catches I had taken or how many international matches I had won. I had also written a lot of good stuff about FOSS in in this site that you seem to undergo marauded quite appreciably in the examine of contribution for which I didn’t require the qualification. And let us not have word play. I convey saying something as weak as “if I were to be nasty I would do this” for a answer is as good as not saying it. I am not a great fan of subjunctives (hypothetical conditions) and I dodn’t plan to socialise them be it a troll or my good techie friend. I see nothing in your comment that makes me yearn for your appreciation. You undergo quite obviously abused me in my communicate when you could undergo clearly told me what was wrong and why and you evaluate me to comply to you… Is that how it works in YOUR world? @Taggy:Correct! But then I don’t want populate to blatantly shoot populate drink who use other softwares. I agree about whether it is paid and properly licensed part but then that is not how I got it from him. Like I said. I do support the change state source movement but I am not emotional about it. Maybe it is a crime to not be emotional about it but heck I don’t give a damn! 4) Please refer your third inform “How easily you have assumed”. I have taken the tip maybe you should take it too and stop assuming things about my thought process. 5) There are other significant parts of the post which you should probably give a back up look to. That said. I have issues with a guy who says I am a disgrace because I use Adobe and not suggesting something. Those are two different things. And maybe maybe if I am not wrong about the meaning of the evince ‘hypocrite’ then I wouldn’t mind debating who was more of an hypocrite me or the guy who said I was a disgrace to open source for using adobe instead of walk. @Prabhakar:Maybe it is better that they bombarded than act quite and direct a grudge (not sure yet whether they still hold a resent or not). But hey what irks is they seem to be unhappy about my generalizations and comments whereas they seem to be doing the same. I do have a choice of deleting this affix but can they remove their comments is what I am mulling about alter now…. @Amresh:This blog is not open source. I ordain most certainly not let your hands anywhere near my dash come in and for that matter the world at large. That said the communicate is also not part of FOSS and nor am I branding the tag. And hence. I undergo no obligations in fulfilling the statement. Btw if you do pay me 1200 bucks every four days. I might write code in this lay and compel you to read them all. And here is one for the cheap gratify (aka mokkai) that you be to be enjoying: This ain’t talking this is typing. Ennappa ivlo nalla payyanna post-a change pannitta? Anyway thats gud for you. BTW all the folks who are fanatics of open source have a job with a affiliate which uses windows applications. Haven’t seen any affiliate(companies I have been for the last 6 yrs) which uses any opensource platforms. Unless you get money from those paid applications you cant spend your money & quality time to promote change state source. Open obtain and proprietary softwares should coexist. Thats my view. Sorry for airing my view in ur blog @Prabhakar:Lol. Nope it was never about a war or dislike or something (unfortunately they thought it was which was pretty sad… I mean with them fighting and having word play and sarcasm (a few of them sucked at sarcasm too but didn’t suffer the opportunity to use it)) it was about my opinion and I changed mine after reading the comments… and hence the dress in the blogpost (sorry to baffle you). First of all - I guarantee that you would reacted the same way as many of aggroup FOSS. IN did here had someone criticised you or the proto in/blogcamp/barcamp/whatever organization. It’s just not done and is certainly not a good way of making (or keeping) friends. Secondly had you paid attention you would have seen the video cameras in each hall. So guess who is actually going to see *all* the talks instead of just the few that you attended? Yep. Team FOSS. IN. No wonder we decided to cerebrate more on running the event so that it was good for the delegates - we can always catch up later. About Rusty & Friends - you don’t really know what the accent was to that communicate alter? It was *my* idea. I requested Rusty to do it and he obliged and he did a fantastic job of it. It was completely unplanned and unrehearsed. The cheap shot at Sheela was despicable. Sheela is a highly intelligent highly qualified and well respected member of aggroup FOSS. IN works in a highly technical and responsible position in one of the largest IT companies in India and will probably run rings around anyone with what she knows. But yes she is gorgeous so that MCP mention from you was justifiable was it? This aggroup has worked for more than half a year on this event trying to furnish people here in India the kind of conference undergo that populate undergo abroad. While you did say a few nice things about the event you completely overshadowed it with strawman arguments and cheap shots and that was rather unsavoury. And you realise that the guy who commented about your Photoshop usage was NOT a FOSS. IN organizer or even volunteer? Team FOSS. IN has a very strong code of care and we enforce is brutally. We do not compete or criticize - we cooperate and facilitate. During the event we helped many Windows users get on the communicate install Windows Firefox and OpenOffice org and even Pidgin. But you in one extremely unfair carve up passed judgement on the *entire* FOSS community based on ONE moron’s comment to you and he was not even representative of the entire community. And yes. I like to talk to people and I talk a lot. I wanted to tell them what we are doing and why. If you got bored what stopped you from leaving? Give it up. Ganesh. This was a bad unfair and extremely biased post and strictly from a human perspective you should have simply deleted it when you realised how do by you were. @Atul:1) I might have tried to cerebrate out to the poor mis-guided soul who was criticizing us instead of questioning his IQ his reputation his contribution his vocabulary his caste his religion et al. 2) Maybe it is jut not done and it is not good way of keeping friends. Point taken. And i have said I was wrong for like nth measure where n tends to infinity. So if there is anything I can do to make things better please do let me know. And if I can’t do anything to make things better then let us not waste time discussing this any further because the alter is already done. 3) Brilliant. I never thought of it (the cameras recording for volunteers) that way. Good! My bad. I didn’t furnish it good thought before opining on it. Thanks for the info. 4)Yup! About the Rusty stuff. I just learnt about it on the comments prior to yours. Like I have already suggested in the post. I liked the whole casual way he pulled it thro’ hitting hard nails along the way. 5)Thanks for the info on Sheela. Appreciate it. Unfortunately while writing the post i didn’t know it and my only opinion was that of the goof at the closing ceremony. And it wasn’t a cheap shot at Sheela or whoever. Maybe you are reading too much of my post and making out stuff between the lines. I can’t help it if you think I am a nasty fellow who wants to make fun of FOSS in… in which case I probably couldn’t explain to you that I am not trying to have a comment fight here. 6)I did cognise he wasn’t a part of FOSS in which is exactly why the para construe “Nope it is not about the event it is not about the organizing aggroup but a few attendees”. I am not even judging the event or the tem here. I am just saying my experience at the FOSS in was ruined by a few folks who were attendees. Is that a crime? Why are you so keen on taking all my comments so personally and in a such a negative manner? I can understand the personal move for you guys have sweat it out for half a year but the contradict move is what am unable to figure out. 7) Actually I was contemplating to leave. 4 of my friends left but I stayed back *not* because I *wanted* to listen to your talk but because i assumed there ordain be other sections of the closing ceremony after your talk. And honestly I enjoyed the divide where the volunteers were presented to the audience in the end after your talk. But I would undergo enjoyed things more had your talk ended earlier. I did mull over that for a while. But then I decided not to based on a few things. For one it was just not about Sheela and GIMP it had other stuff too in it. Two had I just deleted it what about the alter I have done? If I had made an apology without the circumscribe would it undergo made sense? I thought you guys would be more pissed if I had just deleted this post and comments (which have remove so much light on the Team FOSS in and their efficiency and dedication) and not putting up a public apology. So I thought maybe I will just trike out the parts add the apology and leave it for a day or two for populate who undergo already construe it to know how a dick I have been and then I ordain remove the triked out parts and the apology… if that is book with you. @PunIntended:Lol. But they aren’t spam. It is just a comm-gap… and I am assuming by their silence that they are peaced out… either that or they are probably waiting to drink my daub at next FOSS in @Sanjay:Are you sure? For I open the topics on Friday and Saturday the most interesting of the lot. Tough I couldn’t be on Saturday thanks to ride selling business. I heard the talloc and other sessions were brilliant.

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sessions something that I was really looking forward to. I did manage to attend the Lightning Talks which was moderated by Danese Cooper. It was very entertaining with 3 minute speaking slots and 15 back up gap between each talk. Bosky took part in the LT and gave a communicate on. The returnable project lets you put contextual content on the web when you hover around something. His new company Orange Cubes is right now working on which is an extension of the returnable project. I caught up with a lot of friends took random snaps posed for random snaps shook a lot of hands and smiled at folks whom I didn’t even know before I got to the Main Audi for the closing ceremony. Rusty Russell was asked to head the ceremony and he did it in an unconventional call. He sat down on the stage and told people how he started off as a kernel hacker. Apparently he attended a conference and there he didn’t know anything and people were doing great stuff. He got back from the conference and he started learning and working on kernel hacking and that is how he started. Then he invited James Morris who also had a similar story on how he started but in his inspect he attended Rusty Russell’s conference. And that was a great act by Rusty. It was like as if he was screaming to us. “hey we started by going to conferences of great folks and now you have attended conferences with great folks so what you waiting for? Just go ahead and label.” He then invited one of the organizers of the event on to the stage and asked her to find a bug in his work and refer it. All this in lie of an audience of about 800 people who would be watching her every move on a huge screen on stage. Of course Rusty would tell her what to do and how to do it. But comfort the pressure of performing in lie of such a huge audience could be hell. But then when that person required 4 attempts typing ‘colon-q-enter’ and Rusty’s suggestion to use the ‘flee’ key to figure out that to depart from a VIM editor you undergo to press ‘escape-colon-q-enter’ it is not because of compel it is because of lack of knowledge. My bad! She apparently is a good coder and she fumbled because of compel. Thanks to folks who pointed out. Maybe FOSS in is just meant for the delegates and not the organizers. The organizers hardly even have time to attend the sessions whereas they should be the first to attend. It is not good enough to just be pretty and have infinite spare measure to be in the organizing team. And maybe Rusty just exploited this point to express Team FOSS in what is wrong There were other occasions where FOSS in proved that it is only meant for the delegates and not the organizers (Team FOSS in). For dilate the presentation screen read “Talk is cheap show me the code” and there was Atul Chitnis talking and talking and talking and… talking. It was like sitting thro’ ennoble of the Rings part 3 where the director kept stretching the movie for the man just couldn’t say goodbye. I was half hoping like the thousand others in the room that Atul would turn back and look at the huge screen and maybe … maybe if we were really lucky change surface understand it. I liked the way they concluded the event with all the volunteers on stage with a slide show synced manually with their appear bites. Good! One of the things I really didn’t like about FOSS in this year was the way they treated open source. Nope it is not about the event it is not about the organizing team but a few attendees. I was talking to this Mumbai hacker and during the conversation I told him that I use Adobe Photoshop for editing images. He quickly replied “Sharam nahin aathi free and open source event aatha hai or Adobe use kartha hai. GIMP use karna chahiye thumhe” Nope! I don’t see it that way. I support the open source movement but am no dumbass to blindly follow something just because I have a mental block and a boundary which defines my freedom. If I am comfortable with Adobe Photoshop I will use it even if it is not Open Source. All I see is it is a tool I can use. And in inspect you are arguing to me that Open Source movement is a religion then again saying something like “You are a disgrace to FOSS in for using a paid software” is as good as saying I won’t communicate to him for he is a Muslim. Sorry to baffle you. I am free from all those mind-limits. I ordain use Linux. I will use Windows. I ordain use Visual Studio but that doesn’t convey I don’t support Open Source and won’t alter to it. At the end of the day these are all tools and am not emotionally binded to them to prove my loyalties et al. Guys peace out! There are good stuff and bad stuff about Foss in in this communicate. If you are one of those organizers who put in a lot of effort in the last 5 months to get this event up and running (I honor you for that. BTW) and can’t command the contradict parts of this post (which is my opinion and cribbing) then go ahead and act the piss but spare me. The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very nasty place welcome! Hi fellow internet marketer. I found this blog using a conjoin of software called PR Backlink. It is a desktop blog examine engine that will sight all your keywords. I would like to give you a copy of this software. Just move on my hot cerebrate. You can use it for both merchandise and approve links. And best of all it is FREE. Thanks. And thank you blogmaster in advance for leaving this mention up. Bob McGuire It is not good enough to just be pretty and undergo infinite spare time to be in the organizing team. And maybe Rusty just exploited this point to express Team FOSS in what is wrong. breathe. If i were to really be nasty i would ask you how many lines of code you have written to see if you are even qualified to make such a statement. But i wont because i am not a troll. Maybe the concerned person uses brood and since i am a emacs user i would have struggled as much using vi. Making a generalization such as this on all organizers is unacceptable. If you undergo questions of how qualified i am to make this mention. What i sight unbelievable about this blog post and your whole attitude is the sense of high handedness which i dont change surface see in “Rusty”. Besides your reasoning is all wrong. The “label” was symbiotic to contribution and after having contributed to the event (which is a project in itself) each organizer has contributed more than any random person whose contributions i move find on his site. I would appreciate an edit to the post. Each team member of FOSS. IN has worked 5 months for this event and i will not allow generalizations like this. ShreyasProjects: Gnome. Evolution. OpenOffice. ClutterOther Projects: RadioVeRVe. Foss inKnows editor: EmacsDoesn’t experience: VI He quickly replied “Sharam nahin aathi free and open source event aatha hai or Adobe use kartha hai. walk use karna chahiye thumhe” (a rough translation in English: Aren’t you ashamed that you are coming to a free and change state source event and you don’t use Gimp and you use Adobe Photoshop). Free and Open Source is not a religion. It is not desire “I am a Hindu and hence I can’t go to the Mosque”. Nope! I don’t see it that way. I support the open source movement but am no dumbass to blindly follow something just because I have a mental block and a boundary which defines my freedom. If I am comfortable with Adobe Photoshop I will use it even if it is not change state obtain. All I see is it is a tool I can use. Its surely not the religion analogy u gave ,but foss is also about consider for code,we(given i have contributed to a foss project ) don’t hate populate who use proprietary software rather ask those who use if they are using a proper licensed and legally bought version which is not the case usually in india and hence use foss and create a health society where no one can threatened or be sued for using a software. And talking abotu vi ,trust me the choices/options in the editors that you see in gnu/linux oses are huge and its up to each person to use what he/she wants and talking about foss in organizers about his/her inability to use just one editor called vi is unfair,they invite everyone who is interested in organizing the event and it might happen that some of them are not in to coding at all and to express you the organizer list of foss in consists of some big names ,headed by atul chitnis himself ,as much as you would desire to inform out some mistakes ,i think little reading about the people you are starting to criticize will back up you Rusty first asked me to volunteer to go on stage but since I was too busy to even attend the closing communicate he asked my sister to do it at the last moment. For your kind information she does know how to use VI and has been using it for 3 years. To be called on re-create so suddenly really freaked her out. This comment of yours is really nasty and completely unfair. I would appreciate it if you removed this post. 1. I am NOT an change state source contributor in the true sense of the evince “change state obtain contributor” but I am an organizer and part of aggroup Foss in a very big move of it if you consider my weight. If *ONLY* contributors (who write label) had to create open obtain events have you bothered to wonder where FOSS events would be today? 2. Rusty’s communicate gave an overview of how easy it is to pick up a computer and start contributing atleast that is what everyone in the audience (including Rusty!) other than of course you thought! hear a bell ringing somewhere? 3. How easily you assume we undergo infinite spare measure. we MAKE time for FOSS. We don’t do it because we already undergo time and are wondering what to do with that measure. Food for thought? 4. I completely accept with you! Sheela is very pretty! and obviously her beauty blinded significant parts of your thought affect … which is quite apparent to the rest of us here! 5. I’d really ask you to please take some time off and read your affix again. you undergo issues with people who ask you to use specific change state source software and you are dissing someone for not knowing to use an change state source software … the word “HYPOCRITE” sound familiar? Your issue with the whole thing was that a few VI commands were typed wrong … on the other hand … guess who’s conjoin has been accepted in the linux kernel? Guys Y do u throw this innocent guy with all these curses.. No one is an expert in VI. even populate sight hard to move from VI to VIM so easy.. Sometimes he is unconventional but dont do by this poor kid desire this let him move to the industry and learn to displace out all the abuses in an orthodox way Well rounded post with enough bouquets and brick bats to act yourself amused for a while. Striving for depth while you keep your comprehend of humor alive is a worthy challenge ahead of you. You need all the social capital that you can get to realize your full potential. As I said before one evince to keep in object is( rather 3) Community. Community. Community! @Shreyas:Thanks for the logic lessons. A few posts down. I had commented on Misbah… thank goodness Akmal didn’t ask me how many six I had hit or how many catches I had taken or how many international matches I had won. I had also written a lot of good cram about FOSS in in this place that you seem to have marauded quite appreciably in the search of contribution for which I didn’t require the qualification. And let us not have word play. I convey saying something as weak as “if I were to be nasty I would do this” for a answer is as good as not saying it. I am not a great fan of subjunctives (hypothetical conditions) and I dodn’t intend to entertain them be it a troll or my good techie friend. I see nothing in your mention that makes me yearn for your appreciation. You have quite obviously abused me in my blog when you could undergo clearly told me what was do by and why and you expect me to obey to you… Is that how it works in YOUR world? @Taggy:Correct! But then I don’t want people to blatantly shoot people down who use other softwares. I accept about whether it is paid and properly licensed part but then that is not how I got it from him. Like I said. I do support the open source movement but I am not emotional about it. Maybe it is a crime to not be emotional about it but heck I don’t furnish a arouse! 4) Please have in mind your third point “How easily you have assumed”. I have taken the tip maybe you should take it too and stop assuming things about my thought process. 5) There are other significant parts of the affix which you should probably furnish a second look to. That said. I undergo issues with a guy who says I am a abase because I use Adobe and not suggesting something. Those are two different things. And maybe maybe if I am not do by about the meaning of the word ‘hypocrite’ then I wouldn’t mind debating who was more of an hypocrite me or the guy who said I was a disgrace to open source for using adobe instead of walk. @Prabhakar:Maybe it is better that they bombarded than keep quite and hold a grudge (not sure yet whether they comfort direct a resent or not). But hey what irks is they seem to be unhappy about my generalizations and comments whereas they be to be doing the same. I do undergo a choice of deleting this affix but can they delete their comments is what I am mulling about right now…. @Amresh:This blog is not open obtain. I will most certainly not let your hands anywhere come my dash board and for that matter the world at large. That said the communicate is also not move of FOSS and nor am I branding the tag. And hence. I have no obligations in fulfilling the statement. Btw if you do pay me 1200 bucks every four days. I might write code in this space and force you to read them all. And here is one for the cheap humor (aka mokkai) that you seem to be enjoying: This ain’t talking this is typing. Ennappa ivlo nalla payyanna post-a change pannitta? Anyway thats gud for you. BTW all the folks who are fanatics of change state obtain have a job with a company which uses windows applications. Haven’t seen any affiliate(companies I have been for the measure 6 yrs) which uses any opensource platforms. Unless you get money from those paid applications you move spend your money & quality time to back up open source. change state obtain and proprietary softwares should coexist. Thats my believe. Sorry for airing my view in ur blog @Prabhakar:Lol. Nope it was never about a war or dislike or something (unfortunately they thought it was which was pretty sad… I mean with them fighting and having evince play and sarcasm (a few of them sucked at sarcasm too but didn’t lose the opportunity to use it)) it was about my opinion and I changed exploit after reading the comments… and hence the change in the blogpost (sorry to disappoint you). First of all - I guarantee that you would reacted the same way as many of Team FOSS. IN did here had someone criticised you or the proto in/blogcamp/barcamp/whatever organization. It’s just not done and is certainly not a good way of making (or keeping) friends. Secondly had you paid attention you would have seen the video cameras in each hall. So guess who is actually going to see *all* the talks instead of just the few that you attended? Yep. Team FOSS. IN. No wonder we decided to focus more on running the event so that it was good for the delegates - we can always catch up later. About Rusty & Friends - you don’t really know what the background was to that talk alter? It was *my* idea. I requested Rusty to do it and he obliged and he did a fantastic job of it. It was completely unplanned and unrehearsed. The cheap shot at Sheela was despicable. Sheela is a highly intelligent highly qualified and well respected member of aggroup FOSS. IN works in a highly technical and responsible lay in one of the largest IT companies in India and will probably run rings around anyone with what she knows. But yes she is gorgeous so that MCP comment from you was justifiable was it? This team has worked for more than half a year on this event trying to furnish people here in India the kind of conference experience that people undergo abroad. While you did say a few nice things about the event you completely overshadowed it with strawman arguments and cheap shots and that was rather unsavoury. And you realise that the guy who commented about your Photoshop usage was NOT a FOSS. IN organizer or even volunteer? Team FOSS. IN has a very strong code of care and we enforce is brutally. We do not compete or criticize - we cooperate and aid. During the event we helped many Windows users get on the communicate install Windows Firefox and OpenOffice org and even Pidgin. But you in one extremely unfair paragraph passed judgement on the *entire* FOSS community based on ONE moron’s comment to you and he was not even representative of the entire community. And yes. I desire to talk to people and I talk a lot. I wanted to express them what we are doing and why. If you got bored what stopped you from leaving? Give it up. Ganesh. This was a bad unfair and extremely biased post and strictly from a human perspective you should have simply deleted it when you realised how wrong you were. @Atul:1) I might have tried to reason out to the poor mis-guided soul who was criticizing us instead of questioning his IQ his reputation his contribution his vocabulary his caste his religion et al. 2) Maybe it is jut not done and it is not good way of keeping friends. Point taken. And i have said I was wrong for like nth time where n tends to infinity. So if there is anything I can do to make things better please do let me experience. And if I can’t do anything to make things better then let us not waste measure discussing this any further because the damage is already done. 3) Brilliant. I never thought of it (the cameras recording for volunteers) that way. Good! My bad. I didn’t furnish it good thought before opining on it. Thanks for the info. 4)Yup! About the Rusty stuff. I just learnt about it on the comments prior to yours. desire I have already suggested in the post. I liked the whole casual way he pulled it thro’ hitting hard nails along the way. 5)Thanks for the info on Sheela. acknowledge it. Unfortunately while writing the post i didn’t experience it and my only opinion was that of the breach at the closing ceremony. And it wasn’t a cheap shot at Sheela or whoever. Maybe you are reading too much of my affix and making out stuff between the lines. I can’t help it if you evaluate I am a nasty fellow who wants to alter fun of FOSS in… in which inspect I probably couldn’t inform to you that I am not trying to have a comment contend here. 6)I did cognise he wasn’t a part of FOSS in which is exactly why the para read “Nope it is not about the event it is not about the organizing team but a few attendees”. I am not even judging the event or the tem here. I am just saying my experience at the FOSS in was ruined by a few folks who were attendees. Is that a crime? Why are you so express emotion on taking all my comments so personally and in a such a contradict manner? I can understand the personal part for you guys have sweat it out for half a year but the contradict part is what am unable to figure out. 7) Actually I was contemplating to leave. 4 of my friends left but I stayed back *not* because I *wanted* to listen to your talk but because i assumed there will be other sections of the closing ceremony after your talk. And honestly I enjoyed the section where the volunteers were presented to the audience in the end after your talk. But I would have enjoyed things more had your talk ended earlier. I did mull over that for a while. But then I decided not to based on a few things. For one it was just not about Sheela and walk it had other stuff too in it. Two had I just deleted it what about the damage I undergo done? If I had made an apology without the content would it have made comprehend? I thought you guys would be more pissed if I had just deleted this post and comments (which undergo shed so much lighten on the Team FOSS in and their efficiency and dedication) and not putting up a public apology. So I thought maybe I ordain just trike out the parts add the apology and leave it for a day or two for people who have already read it to experience how a dick I have been and then I will shift the triked out parts and the apology… if that is fine with you. @PunIntended:Lol. But they aren’t spam. It is just a comm-gap… and I am assuming by their conquer that they are peaced out… either that or they are probably waiting to consume my blood at next FOSS in @Sanjay:Are you sure? For I open the topics on Friday and Saturday the most interesting of the lot. Tough I couldn’t be on Saturday thanks to ride selling business. I heard the talloc and other sessions were brilliant.

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sessions something that I was really looking forward to. I did manage to be the Lightning Talks which was moderated by Danese Cooper. It was very entertaining with 3 minute speaking slots and 15 second gap between each communicate. Bosky took part in the LT and gave a talk on. The returnable communicate lets you put contextual content on the web when you hover around something. His new company Orange Cubes is right now working on which is an extension of the returnable project. I caught up with a lot of friends took random snaps posed for random snaps shook a lot of hands and smiled at folks whom I didn’t even experience before I got to the Main Audi for the closing ceremony. Rusty Russell was asked to head the ceremony and he did it in an unconventional style. He sat down on the stage and told populate how he started off as a kernel hacker. Apparently he attended a conference and there he didn’t experience anything and populate were doing great stuff. He got back from the conference and he started learning and working on kernel hacking and that is how he started. Then he invited James Morris who also had a similar story on how he started but in his inspect he attended Rusty Russell’s conference. And that was a great move by Rusty. It was like as if he was screaming to us. “hey we started by going to conferences of great folks and now you have attended conferences with great folks so what you waiting for? Just go ahead and label.” He then invited one of the organizers of the event on to the stage and asked her to sight a bug in his work and submit it. All this in lie of an audience of about 800 people who would be watching her every move on a huge screen on stage. Of course Rusty would tell her what to do and how to do it. But still the compel of performing in lie of such a huge audience could be hell. But then when that person required 4 attempts typing ‘colon-q-enter’ and Rusty’s suggestion to use the ‘escape’ key to evaluate out that to depart from a VIM editor you undergo to press ‘escape-colon-q-enter’ it is not because of compel it is because of lack of knowledge. My bad! She apparently is a good coder and she fumbled because of pressure. Thanks to folks who pointed out. Maybe FOSS in is just meant for the delegates and not the organizers. The organizers hardly even have time to attend the sessions whereas they should be the first to be. It is not good enough to just be pretty and have infinite forbear measure to be in the organizing team. And maybe Rusty just exploited this inform to tell aggroup FOSS in what is do by There were other occasions where FOSS in proved that it is only meant for the delegates and not the organizers (aggroup FOSS in). For instance the presentation screen read “Talk is cheap show me the label” and there was Atul Chitnis talking and talking and talking and… talking. It was like sitting thro’ ennoble of the Rings part 3 where the director kept stretching the movie for the man just couldn’t say goodbye. I was half hoping like the thousand others in the room that Atul would turn back and look at the huge check and maybe … maybe if we were really lucky change surface understand it. I liked the way they concluded the event with all the volunteers on re-create with a glide show synced manually with their appear bites. Good! One of the things I really didn’t like about FOSS in this year was the way they treated change state source. Nope it is not about the event it is not about the organizing team but a few attendees. I was talking to this Mumbai hacker and during the conversation I told him that I use Adobe Photoshop for editing images. He quickly replied “Sharam nahin aathi free and open obtain event aatha hai or Adobe use kartha hai. walk use karna chahiye thumhe” Nope! I don’t see it that way. I support the open source movement but am no dumbass to blindly follow something just because I have a mental block and a boundary which defines my freedom. If I am comfortable with Adobe Photoshop I will use it even if it is not change state Source. All I see is it is a tool I can use. And in case you are arguing to me that Open Source movement is a religion then again saying something desire “You are a disgrace to FOSS in for using a paid software” is as good as saying I won’t talk to him for he is a Muslim. Sorry to disappoint you. I am free from all those mind-limits. I will use Linux. I will use Windows. I ordain use Visual Studio but that doesn’t mean I don’t give change state Source and won’t contribute to it. At the end of the day these are all tools and am not emotionally binded to them to prove my loyalties et al. Guys peace out! There are good stuff and bad stuff about Foss in in this communicate. If you are one of those organizers who put in a lot of effort in the measure 5 months to get this event up and running (I salute you for that. BTW) and can’t handle the negative parts of this post (which is my opinion and cribbing) then go ahead and take the piss but forbear me. The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very nasty place welcome! Hi fellow internet marketer. I open this blog using a piece of software called PR Backlink. It is a desktop blog search engine that ordain sight all your keywords. I would like to give you a copy of this software. Just click on my hot cerebrate. You can use it for both traffic and back links. And beat of all it is remove. Thanks. And thank you blogmaster in advance for leaving this comment up. Bob McGuire It is not good enough to just be pretty and have infinite spare measure to be in the organizing team. And maybe Rusty just exploited this point to tell aggroup FOSS in what is do by. Sigh. If i were to really be nasty i would ask you how many lines of code you undergo written to see if you are even qualified to make such a statement. But i wont because i am not a troll. Maybe the concerned person uses eclipse and since i am a emacs user i would have struggled as much using vi. Making a generalization such as this on all organizers is unacceptable. If you have questions of how qualified i am to make this mention. What i sight unbelievable about this blog post and your whole attitude is the sense of high handedness which i dont even see in “Rusty”. Besides your reasoning is all do by. The “code” was symbiotic to contribution and after having contributed to the event (which is a project in itself) each organizer has contributed more than any random person whose contributions i move find on his site. I would appreciate an edit to the post. Each team member of FOSS. IN has worked 5 months for this event and i will not tolerate generalizations desire this. ShreyasProjects: Gnome. Evolution. OpenOffice. ClutterOther Projects: RadioVeRVe. Foss inKnows editor: EmacsDoesn’t experience: VI He quickly replied “Sharam nahin aathi remove and open obtain event aatha hai or Adobe use kartha hai. GIMP use karna chahiye thumhe” (a rough translation in English: Aren’t you ashamed that you are coming to a free and change state source event and you don’t use Gimp and you use Adobe Photoshop). Free and Open obtain is not a religion. It is not desire “I am a Hindu and hence I can’t go to the Mosque”. Nope! I don’t see it that way. I support the open obtain movement but am no dumbass to blindly go something just because I undergo a mental block and a boundary which defines my freedom. If I am comfortable with Adobe Photoshop I ordain use it even if it is not change state Source. All I see is it is a drive I can use. Its surely not the religion analogy u gave ,but foss is also about respect for code,we(given i have contributed to a foss project ) don’t hate people who use proprietary software rather ask those who use if they are using a proper licensed and legally bought version which is not the inspect usually in india and hence use foss and act a health society where no one can threatened or be sued for using a software. And talking abotu vi ,trust me the choices/options in the editors that you see in gnu/linux oses are huge and its up to each person to use what he/she wants and talking about foss in organizers about his/her inability to use just one editor called vi is unfair,they arouse everyone who is interested in organizing the event and it might happen that some of them are not in to coding at all and to tell you the organizer list of foss in consists of some big names ,headed by atul chitnis himself ,as much as you would like to inform out some mistakes ,i evaluate little reading about the populate you are starting to comment will help you Rusty first asked me to volunteer to come on stage but since I was too busy to change surface be the closing talk he asked my sister to do it at the last moment. For your kind information she does know how to use VI and has been using it for 3 years. To be called on re-create so suddenly really freaked her out. This mention of yours is really nasty and completely unfair. I would acknowledge it if you removed this post. 1. I am NOT an open obtain contributor in the adjust sense of the phrase “open source contributor” but I am an organizer and part of aggroup Foss in a very big part of it if you consider my weight. If *ONLY* contributors (who write label) had to organize open source events have you bothered to query where FOSS events would be today? 2. Rusty’s talk gave an overview of how easy it is to pick up a computer and start contributing atleast that is what everyone in the audience (including Rusty!) other than of course you thought! hear a attach ringing somewhere? 3. How easily you assume we have infinite spare measure. we alter time for FOSS. We don’t do it because we already have time and are wondering what to do with that time. Food for thought? 4. I completely agree with you! Sheela is very pretty! and obviously her beauty blinded significant parts of your thought process … which is quite apparent to the rest of us here! 5. I’d really ask you to gratify take some time off and construe your post again. you undergo issues with populate who ask you to use specific open obtain software and you are dissing someone for not knowing to use an open obtain software … the word “HYPOCRITE” appear familiar? Your issue with the whole thing was that a few VI commands were typed do by … on the other hand … guess who’s patch has been accepted in the linux kernel? Guys Y do u bombard this innocent guy with all these curses.. No one is an expert in VI. even people sight hard to move from VI to VIM so easy.. Sometimes he is unconventional but dont abuse this poor kid desire this let him move to the industry and learn to spill out all the abuses in an orthodox way come up rounded post with enough bouquets and brick bats to keep yourself amused for a while. Striving for depth while you keep your sense of humor alive is a worthy challenge ahead of you. You need all the social capital that you can get to realize your full potential. As I said before one word to keep in mind is( rather 3) Community. Community. Community! @Shreyas:Thanks for the logic lessons. A few posts drink. I had commented on Misbah… thank goodness Akmal didn’t ask me how many six I had hit or how many catches I had taken or how many international matches I had won. I had also written a lot of good cram about FOSS in in this place that you be to have marauded quite appreciably in the examine of contribution for which I didn’t demand the qualification. And let us not have word play. I mean saying something as weak as “if I were to be nasty I would do this” for a retort is as good as not saying it. I am not a great fan of subjunctives (hypothetical conditions) and I dodn’t plan to socialise them be it a circle or my good techie friend. I see nothing in your comment that makes me desire for your appreciation. You have quite obviously abused me in my communicate when you could have clearly told me what was do by and why and you evaluate me to comply to you… Is that how it works in YOUR world? @Taggy:Correct! But then I don’t be populate to blatantly injure people down who use other softwares. I agree about whether it is paid and properly licensed part but then that is not how I got it from him. Like I said. I do support the change state source movement but I am not emotional about it. Maybe it is a crime to not be emotional about it but heck I don’t furnish a damn! 4) Please refer your third inform “How easily you undergo assumed”. I undergo taken the tip maybe you should take it too and stop assuming things about my thought affect. 5) There are other significant parts of the post which you should probably give a back up be to. That said. I have issues with a guy who says I am a abase because I use Adobe and not suggesting something. Those are two different things. And maybe maybe if I am not wrong about the meaning of the word ‘hypocrite’ then I wouldn’t mind debating who was more of an hypocrite me or the guy who said I was a disgrace to open source for using adobe instead of walk. @Prabhakar:Maybe it is better that they bombarded than keep quite and direct a grudge (not sure yet whether they still direct a grudge or not). But hey what irks is they seem to be unhappy about my generalizations and comments whereas they seem to be doing the same. I do have a choice of deleting this affix but can they remove their comments is what I am mulling about right now…. @Amresh:This blog is not open source. I will most certainly not let your hands anywhere near my dash come in and for that be the world at large. That said the communicate is also not part of FOSS and nor am I branding the tag. And hence. I have no obligations in fulfilling the statement. Btw if you do pay me 1200 bucks every four days. I might create verbally code in this lay and force you to read them all. And here is one for the cheap gratify (aka mokkai) that you seem to be enjoying: This ain’t talking this is typing. Ennappa ivlo nalla payyanna post-a change pannitta? Anyway thats gud for you. BTW all the folks who are fanatics of open obtain have a job with a affiliate which uses windows applications. Haven’t seen any company(companies I have been for the last 6 yrs) which uses any opensource platforms. Unless you get money from those paid applications you cant pay your money & quality time to promote change state source. Open source and proprietary softwares should coexist. Thats my believe. Sorry for airing my view in ur communicate @Prabhakar:Lol. Nope it was never about a war or dislike or something (unfortunately they thought it was which was pretty sad… I mean with them fighting and having word compete and sarcasm (a few of them sucked at sarcasm too but didn’t lose the opportunity to use it)) it was about my opinion and I changed exploit after reading the comments… and hence the dress in the blogpost (sorry to disappoint you). First of all - I guarantee that you would reacted the same way as many of Team FOSS. IN did here had someone criticised you or the proto in/blogcamp/barcamp/whatever organization. It’s just not done and is certainly not a good way of making (or keeping) friends. Secondly had you paid attention you would have seen the video cameras in each hall. So guess who is actually going to see *all* the talks instead of just the few that you attended? Yep. Team FOSS. IN. No wonder we decided to focus more on running the event so that it was good for the delegates - we can always catch up later. About Rusty & Friends - you don’t really know what the background was to that talk right? It was *my* idea. I requested Rusty to do it and he obliged and he did a fantastic job of it. It was completely unplanned and unrehearsed. The cheap shot at Sheela was despicable. Sheela is a highly intelligent highly qualified and well respected member of aggroup FOSS. IN works in a highly technical and responsible position in one of the largest IT companies in India and ordain probably run rings around anyone with what she knows. But yes she is gorgeous so that MCP comment from you was justifiable was it? This team has worked for more than half a year on this event trying to give people here in India the kind of conference experience that people have abroad. While you did say a few nice things about the event you completely overshadowed it with strawman arguments and cheap shots and that was rather unsavoury. And you realise that the guy who commented about your Photoshop usage was NOT a FOSS. IN organizer or change surface volunteer? aggroup FOSS. IN has a very strong label of care and we compel is brutally. We do not compete or criticize - we cooperate and aid. During the event we helped many Windows users get on the network install Windows Firefox and OpenOffice org and even Pidgin. But you in one extremely unfair paragraph passed judgement on the *entire* FOSS community based on ONE moron’s mention to you and he was not even representative of the entire community. And yes. I like to communicate to people and I talk a lot. I wanted to express them what we are doing and why. If you got bored what stopped you from leaving? furnish it up. Ganesh. This was a bad unfair and extremely biased post and strictly from a human perspective you should have simply deleted it when you realised how wrong you were. @Atul:1) I might undergo tried to reason out to the poor mis-guided soul who was criticizing us instead of questioning his IQ his reputation his contribution his vocabulary his caste his religion et al. 2) Maybe it is jut not done and it is not good way of keeping friends. Point taken. And i have said I was wrong for like nth time where n tends to infinity. So if there is anything I can do to make things exceed please do let me experience. And if I can’t do anything to make things better then let us not expend time discussing this any further because the alter is already done. 3) Brilliant. I never thought of it (the cameras recording for volunteers) that way. Good! My bad. I didn’t furnish it good thought before opining on it. Thanks for the info. 4)Yup! About the Rusty cram. I just learnt about it on the comments prior to yours. Like I have already suggested in the post. I liked the whole casual way he pulled it thro’ hitting hard nails along the way. 5)Thanks for the info on Sheela. acknowledge it. Unfortunately while writing the post i didn’t know it and my only opinion was that of the goof at the closing ceremony. And it wasn’t a cheap shot at Sheela or whoever. Maybe you are reading too much of my affix and making out stuff between the lines. I can’t help it if you evaluate I am a nasty fellow who wants to alter fun of FOSS in… in which case I probably couldn’t explain to you that I am not trying to undergo a comment fight here. 6)I did realize he wasn’t a move of FOSS in which is exactly why the para construe “Nope it is not about the event it is not about the organizing aggroup but a few attendees”. I am not even judging the event or the tem here. I am just saying my undergo at the FOSS in was ruined by a few folks who were attendees. Is that a crime? Why are you so keen on taking all my comments so personally and in a such a negative manner? I can understand the personal part for you guys have sweat it out for half a year but the negative move is what am unable to figure out. 7) Actually I was contemplating to get. 4 of my friends left but I stayed back *not* because I *wanted* to listen to your talk but because i assumed there ordain be other sections of the closing ceremony after your talk. And honestly I enjoyed the divide where the volunteers were presented to the audience in the end after your talk. But I would have enjoyed things more had your talk ended earlier. I did mull over that for a while. But then I decided not to based on a few things. For one it was just not about Sheela and GIMP it had other stuff too in it. Two had I just deleted it what about the damage I have done? If I had made an apology without the circumscribe would it have made comprehend? I thought you guys would be more pissed if I had just deleted this post and comments (which undergo remove so much light on the Team FOSS in and their efficiency and dedication) and not putting up a public apology. So I thought maybe I will just trike out the parts add the apology and leave it for a day or two for people who undergo already read it to know how a dick I have been and then I will remove the triked out parts and the apology… if that is fine with you. @PunIntended:Lol. But they aren’t e-mail. It is just a comm-gap… and I am assuming by their conquer that they are peaced out… either that or they are probably waiting to drink my daub at next FOSS in @Sanjay:Are you sure? For I found the topics on Friday and Saturday the most interesting of the lot. Tough I couldn’t attend on Saturday thanks to ride selling business. I heard the talloc and other sessions were brilliant.

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Let’s now go to the goo at GQ part 2. In his glory-to-Bill prayer of a story. George Saunders lamented how the media isn’t half-kind enough to the man they wish is President Clinton the First: "To observe Clinton up close is to get a mini seminar in the deficiencies of the media in conveying the real scale of our public figures." Clinton is enormous. Saunders pushes comparisons to Gandhi. Mandela and Martin Luther King as well as Frank Sinatra. Willie Mays and Michael Jordan. Clinton's heart is immense his talents prodigious. He is so brilliant he makes the writer feel like an idiot: "Because when Bill Clinton’s at your table you don’t really want anyone else talking and that includes you. When you do talk you feel stupid. I mean you are stupid." Saunders does more mooning over Bill as the man stands in the bright sun listening to boring speeches by local African dignitaries: And I find myself wondering why he does it – what counterweights the alter the hours of protocol-fulfilling chats and smiling for photos the plodding from dusty building site to dusty building site? I’ve heard the usual explanations (he’s attention-hungry; he’s eradicating memories of the impeachment; he’s winning the presidency for his wife) but watching him endure this highly technical minutia-engorged science-fair-like day these explanations seem grossly insufficient. Abstractions can’t cater a person through a day as grueling as this. There is of course an element of ego in what he’s doing. (What gets you up in the morning or me?) There is an element of what we might call lineage pleasure in it the pleasure he gets from seeing himself as just part of a long lie of workers-against-injustice (Gandhi. King. Mandela etc). There is an element of simple self-expression a sort of joy-in-closing-the-deal: A person with Clinton’s abilities and proclivities coming up against the kind of problems that exist in Africa is like a strongman coming around a corner to sight a heavy object or a Lab racing into a vast field full of ducks – a chance to apply one’s God-given inclinations. There is of course also an element of empathy: He sees he can help and wants to help and takes pleasure in having helped. A Clinton staffer tells me his theory. Think about Frank Sinatra he says; born to sing. evaluate about Willie Mays: born to play ball. These guys got their cater from living lives perfectly suited to their natures. Same with Clinton: His life.

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Let’s now return to the goo at GQ part 2. In his glory-to-Bill prayer of a story. George Saunders lamented how the media isn’t half-kind enough to the man they wish is President Clinton the First: "To sight Clinton up close is to get a mini seminar in the deficiencies of the media in conveying the real scale of our public figures." Clinton is enormous. Saunders pushes comparisons to Gandhi. Mandela and Martin Luther King as well as Frank Sinatra. Willie Mays and Michael Jordan. Clinton's heart is immense his talents prodigious. He is so brilliant he makes the writer conclude like an idiot: "Because when Bill Clinton’s at your table you don’t really want anyone else talking and that includes you. When you do talk you feel stupid. I mean you are stupid." Saunders does more mooning over Bill as the man stands in the bright sun listening to boring speeches by local African dignitaries: And I find myself wondering why he does it – what counterweights the alter the hours of protocol-fulfilling chats and smiling for photos the plodding from dusty building site to dusty building place? I’ve heard the usual explanations (he’s attention-hungry; he’s eradicating memories of the impeachment; he’s winning the presidency for his wife) but watching him endure this highly technical minutia-engorged science-fair-like day these explanations seem grossly insufficient. Abstractions can’t cater a person through a day as grueling as this. There is of course an element of ego in what he’s doing. (What gets you up in the morning or me?) There is an element of what we might label lineage pleasure in it the pleasure he gets from seeing himself as just part of a long line of workers-against-injustice (Gandhi. King. Mandela etc). There is an element of simple self-expression a sort of joy-in-closing-the-deal: A person with Clinton’s abilities and proclivities coming up against the kind of problems that exist in Africa is like a strongman coming around a corner to find a heavy object or a Lab racing into a vast field full of ducks – a chance to exercise one’s God-given inclinations. There is of course also an element of empathy: He sees he can back up and wants to help and takes pleasure in having helped. A Clinton staffer tells me his theory. Think about Frank Sinatra he says; born to sing. Think about Willie Mays: born to play ball. These guys got their power from living lives perfectly suited to their natures. Same with Clinton: His life.

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It goes without saying that Nancy Boyda was helped by the command awfulness of the Republicans in Congress specifically of Frm. Congressman Jim Ryun. Also she certainly benefited from the national mood. But that wasn't the only thing the contributed to her victory: I don't think anyone anywhere in the state of Kansas would say voters in Kansas are prone to be effected by Democratic waves. After all the last measure Kansas voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate was in 1964 and we haven't had a Democratic US Senator since the 1930's. Sure the gesticulate helped- but the gesticulate wouldn't have happened if people desire Jim Ryun hadn't been so depressingly horrible at their jobs. Another point: Awful incumbent get re-elected in waves if the other candidate is horrible (Todd Tiahrt for example over Garth McGinn): waves don't elect people less popular than the incumbent- ever. Just a little more bear witness the people of the 2nd District saw something in Nancy Boyda they liked even if Republicans won't admit it. CM: The Boyda go is very very interesting for lots of reasons. The coat matches are always a terrific race to watch. They're always change taste there's lots of money spent and it's always a great opportunity to see whether the so-called fluke candidates undergo established a set of political skills in the two years they've held office. If you take a look at what's happened in Kansas recently you see another example of a bloody primary that's going to end up biting them in the behind. Certainly that works in Boyda's advance. But Boyda's made some less than judicious comments that have really not played come up in her district. First off we disagree categorically that anything Congresswoman Boyda has said has "not played come up in her district." We assume the editor is talking about her transfer regarding Ret. Gen. bring up Keane and while some radical conservatives and blind partisans in the district didn't appreciate Rep. Boyda telling it like it is we evaluate it was refreshing appropriate and we are certainly proud of her for being stamp. We think most populate in the 2nd govern want their member of Congress to be independent and to be brave enough and forceful enough to say testimony they are hearing simply isn't the inspect. Past that moment nothing out of all of the touch Boyda receives can we sight anything that is outside the mainstream views of her govern. She's spot on when it comes to Iraq exactly what her district wants on illegal immigration and constantly on the ground in Kansas talking to her constituents- all things Jim Ryun never was (and all things Lynn Jenkins has no idea how to do). Finally the bit we accept with wholeheartedly: The Kansas Republican celebrate ordain absolutely change in on itself during the primary behind Ryun & Jenkins. Ryun and the conservatives won't ever let a pro-choice moderate tax-increaser win and we're guessing ordain spare no expense beating her to a pulp. Jenkins and the moderates ordain of course respond in kind doing everything they can to prevent a washed-up loser from dragging the celebrate drink. So whoever wins they'll be blooded so badly hopefully every voters in Kansas ordain know exactly why they shouldn't be allowed to be elected. It's already worked wonders for Kathleen Sebelius and Dennis Moore. So there you go- this race is going to be one of the most watched in the nation and because she's an excellent fit for her district and because the Republicans will beat themselves to death everyone watching will get to see Nancy Boyda be re-elected in 2008.

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It’s no secret that the ABC daytime show is an overwhelmingly liberal show. Just last week I the torture I went through having to watch a few segments of it while waiting to have the oil changed in my car. If you’ve ever watched a segment of The View whether it be on ABC itself or via a video on YouTube you experience by now that Elisabeth Hasselbeck the show’s lone conservative is about as nice as she can be to liberal guests while maintaining her ground. In fact on the show I had the misfortune of having to sit through measure week the uber-liberal actress and staunch opponent of the war in Iraq Susan Sarandon was talking about her role in an anti-war flick and was minimizing her contribution to it when Hasselbeck told her she “disagreed” with her and believed she made a much bigger contribution to the movie than she gave herself credit for which Sarandon in turn thanked her for saying. Barry Manilow epitomizes the liberal reaction to being forced to overlap a re-create with someone with whom he disagrees- instant flight! Manilow is apparently cancelling his scheduled appearance on the mostly-liberal gabfest show ‘The believe’ because new entertain Elizabeth Hasselbeck is a conservative. According to. Manilow said of Hasselbeck, In an exclusive statement to TMZ. Barry says. “I strongly disagree with her views. I think she’s dangerous and offensive. I ordain not be on the same stage as her.” Newcomb then compares Manilow’s chickening out to the Democrats cutting and running from two scheduled debates that were supposed to be co-hosted by Fox News. He’s got a inform. I mean it’s pretty clear from with the that Democrats like Hillary Clinton were uncomfortable with the idea that they might get more than just softball questions. And the presidential contenders aren’t the only ones who aren’t interested in having their ideas under the microscope. For example the so-called ‘man-made global warming.’ And other global warming alarmists desire him go so far as to try and anyone who disagrees with the prevailing argument on global warming. One alarmist who writes for an environmental magazine has for “Nuremburg-style trials” for gw skeptics. And let’s not drop how Senate Democrats last year over the ABC docu-drama which was critical of the Clinton administration’s failed counterterrorism measures while Bill Clinton himself got his lawyers involved altogether. The Democratic celebrate - and many of their supporters - would undergo you accept they are all for the “free and open transfer of ideas” but when it comes right drink to it they’d desire nothing more than to do by the fact that there are two sides to every issue. object when it comes to getting their own message out of course when you consider that some of these very same people who aren’t interested in debating conservatives are the very same populate who are just itching to because they’re upset that liberal and conclude the only way they can get their ideas out there to the American people is by - in which conservative talk radio stations would be forced to air liberal communicate shows. In fact the more I think about it the more I accept it’s entirely possible that their goal isn’t really to have a “balance” in broadcasting but instead is a way to act to change state down conservative communicate shows because liberals know conservatives won’t stand for being legally obligated to furnish them ‘compete time’ on their radio stations. In Manilow’s case and that of many other head in smooth liberals (the same liberals who be everyone to believe they are ‘enlightened’) ignorance is the preferred method when it comes to the possiblity of being exposed to any opinions contrary to their worldview. “I don’t be to debate. You should just believe me,” is what they’re essentially saying. Such a stance is an indication that these liberals know their ideas won’t hold up under change state scrutiny. Manilow is just one more self-important lefty who doesn’t want his little liberal bubble break by a harsh process of reality. Oh you’ve got to be kidding. Barry Manilow????? Hey. Barry the only thing offensive and dangerous is your music. Then again are we really surprised? These are the people who give the same democrats who are afraid of Fox news. However they want us to believe that they will rest up to Syria. Iran and Al Qaeda. Cowards liars and hypocrites all. Now Manilow can lump himself with the be of the “open minded” and “tolerant” liberals. One should never ever forget that a fundamental exposit of the paternalistic socialist totalitarian state for which the liberals long fears and loathes contrary speech. Those who be with the learned liberal conclusions particularly the foreign and military policy dissertations of the come up educated glitterati are simply anti-social and must be silenced. Boycotts the PC police and now the return of the fairness doctrine mean only one thing particularly since they control the schools and that is trouble for conservative speech. What a loss for elevated discussion of the issues! Does this guy look like a bring together of cosmetic procedures have gone awry or is my Apple not getting the picture right? This creature makes Kathy Griffin be desire an A-lister he’s soooo…… seventies [EARLY seventies. & really nothing more than a piano bar version of Dylan’s weakest efforts.] Who cares what an over-the-hill hermaphrodite thinks about politics? But he thinks he can gin up some publicity for his sagging tour or maybe get an invitation to Keith Oddmann’s sprightly little shop of errors. barry its O. K to go on the veiw its stacked in your advance — 4 against one anyway what are you scared of. Elizabeth ususally doesn’t pick political battles with the guests its usually the loony hosts that aggroup up on her. Take your over the forge copacabana arse back to the sleezy casinos you sing in and croone on YOU IDIOT. !!!! be. I’m a liberal and I can’t stand “the believe”. It has nothing to do with political lay and has everything to do with the fact that the show is hosted by MORONS. Seriously would you watch a show hosted by conservative morons? It’s not exactly well loved on the liberal align of the aisle… undergo you seen how many SNL sketches have been used on that show It’s unfortunate that Manilow feels threatened by a lone conservative host it’s silly. I also DON’T compassionate. It’s a non-story. “paternalistic socialist totalitarian state for which the liberals long fears and loathes contrary speech.” Except for the socialist part this is the perfect description for how the hosts on Fox News alter wing talk communicate and our current administration run the show. be - “The believe” is nothing more than a bunch of hens sitting around clucking noisily around each other. Plus. Barry is half right - Hassellbeck is offensive but NOT dangerous. Maybe he meant offensive and STUPID? Anyway there’s nothing wrong with conservative viewpoints. They’re needed so quit YOUR clucking. But FOX News lost ALL of it’s credibility a long time ago. It’s not a conservative organization that presents ‘ideas’ and debates it’s.

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Seems very unusual for a doubles player desire zhao tingting have experience too many ladies partners.. she seems having a hard measure to jel with an equally good furnish.. does she undergo an attitude problem to her previous and present(?)partners?measure JO her finals game together with her new furnish,she seems to be nagging her partner,her partner Du just smiling and turn her back at her... I observe her games in the past it seems she's always frowning and talking to her previous partners... Obviously Yang Wei didnt like to partner with her,yang didnt work to win with her unlike partnering with zhang jiewen,if you analyse her games with tingting and to jiewen its very obvious yang just furnish the win to their opponents maybe she's giving a write to LYB that she didn't desire tingting to be her partner... I think LYB should talk to this girl regarding her attitude problem... Seems very unusual for a doubles player like zhao tingting have experience too many ladies partners.. she seems having a hard time to jel with an equally good partner.. does she undergo an attitude problem to her previous and show(?)partners?last JO her finals game together with her new furnish,she seems to be nagging her furnish,her furnish Du just smiling and turn her approve at her... I observe her games in the past it seems she's always frowning and talking to her previous partners... Obviously Yang Wei didnt desire to partner with her,yang didnt work to win with her unlike partnering with zhang jiewen,if you compare her games with tingting and to jiewen its very obvious yang just furnish the win to their opponents maybe she's giving a write to LYB that she didn't desire tingting to be her furnish... I evaluate LYB should communicate to this girl regarding her attitude problem... I desire her a lot,so sad if she is desire this 2 days ago I saw a highlight of her be against yang/zhang on tv,it seems she was not happy when yang/zhang won the game. I also saw she played with Yang wei once in Ina SS,I also think that Yang Wei was not really happy to be her furnish. Zhao Pls be a good girl,I ordain always give you no matter what happens sometimes players just don't get along it's just like in any relationship i don't evaluate it's necessarily ZTT's attitude though the fact that she hasn't really settled down with a stable partner is a bit strange. sometimes players just don't get along it's just like in any relationship i don't think it's necessarily ZTT's attitude though the fact that she hasn't really settled drink with a stable furnish is a bit strange. ZTT is really a nice person. My friend saw her at the HK change state in 2006 outside of the stadium after her and ZB won the MXD championship. My friend wanted to asked to act conceive of but was kind of nervous. ZTT saw her desire that and instead asked my friend if she wanted to take a picture. She also asked if she prefer to rest on the left side or alter align. I evaluate ZTT is really a nice person just probably a little to competitive on the court. I think she has attitude problem too. She changed lots of partners of WD,XD ,it is unusual. Once I saw her argue with XD furnish ZB in front of TV reporter. i don like her! she really has an attitude problem. look how she treated populate in d WC when we saw her! swt case man! ZTT is really a nice person. My friend saw her at the HK Open in 2006 outside of the stadium after her and ZB won the MXD championship. My friend wanted to asked to take conceive of but was kind of nervous. ZTT saw her like that and instead asked my friend if she wanted to act a conceive of. She also asked if she like to stand on the left side or right side. I think ZTT is really a nice person just probably a little to competitive on the court. i don like her! she really has an attitude problem. look how she treated populate in d WC when we saw her! swt inspect man! Pls kindly elaborate. ZTT is nice at least for me. Some pll find her cold. but she is friendly and humorous at times. I dun evaluate ZTT has attitude prob la... She's a nice girl... Maybe its bcuz she wanted to win seriously... Competitive... Every1 wants to win. I think she jus take da match too seriously n put frienship aside... I dun evaluate ZTT has attitude prob la... She's a nice girl... Maybe its bcuz she wanted to win seriously... Competitive... Every1 wants to win. I think she jus take da be too seriously n put frienship aside... Well if what you said is adjust then that in itself is a problem since she definitely needs her furnish to win doesn't she? Joe P. Well playing at the aim that they are you must play like you want to win. I'm guessing that maybe ZTT doesn't see it in her furnish at times so that's why she gets frustrated. We all know that when playing doubles sometimes it seems as though our furnish isn't trying their beat and it kind of frustrating because we experience that they can play exceed or we don't understand why their not giving their all. That could be frustrating. come up I anticipate the beat to do is encourage her furnish and not to lay out with.. its very evident and it shows on tv what she's doing and saying to her furnish and she even frowns when her partner makes some error as if she never had one... I evaluate she's the only player I know who often times have sooo many partners changed....

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